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		<title>By: I hate that I fear &#171; Pink Hair Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4675</link>
		<dc:creator>I hate that I fear &#171; Pink Hair Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am a white South African woman, 33 years old. Old enough to have known apartheid as a child, young enough to embrace change and want SA to be different. I have written before that, whether I agreed or not with the way our country was governed, in profound ways, I benefited &#8211; you can read it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am a white South African woman, 33 years old. Old enough to have known apartheid as a child, young enough to embrace change and want SA to be different. I have written before that, whether I agreed or not with the way our country was governed, in profound ways, I benefited &#8211; you can read it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Grey: Grey, white people in general benefited from apartheid! Those who didn&#039;t either chose not to or didn&#039;t know how to, the bottom line is that the opportunity was there...all the opportunity was there. I on the other hand (a person of colour) did not benefit as well as the white people did but, I did benefit more than the black people. If I had the opportunities that English speaking white people had in this country I would have been rich...this I can tell you for sure. My parents were discriminated against which resulted in them not being able to gain access to tertiary education due to poverty, which in return resulted in me not being sponsored by my parents to have a university education. and yes you could argue BURSARIES? SCHOLARSHIPS? ... my matric results were not good enough to qualify for this since my matric year was disrupted due to the political revolt known as &quot;the Struggle!&quot; something that Julius clearly knows nothing about. 

So yes my friend reality for other people was so different to yours. You can and will never understand or comprehend how things were, if you did you would sing a different tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Grey: Grey, white people in general benefited from apartheid! Those who didn&#8217;t either chose not to or didn&#8217;t know how to, the bottom line is that the opportunity was there&#8230;all the opportunity was there. I on the other hand (a person of colour) did not benefit as well as the white people did but, I did benefit more than the black people. If I had the opportunities that English speaking white people had in this country I would have been rich&#8230;this I can tell you for sure. My parents were discriminated against which resulted in them not being able to gain access to tertiary education due to poverty, which in return resulted in me not being sponsored by my parents to have a university education. and yes you could argue BURSARIES? SCHOLARSHIPS? &#8230; my matric results were not good enough to qualify for this since my matric year was disrupted due to the political revolt known as &#8220;the Struggle!&#8221; something that Julius clearly knows nothing about. </p>
<p>So yes my friend reality for other people was so different to yours. You can and will never understand or comprehend how things were, if you did you would sing a different tune.</p>
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		<title>By: Po</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Po</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if our parents chose to stay, and they did, during Apartheid, they clearly did not strongly object to Apartheid. I know my aunt and uncle left because they did not agree with the government. My parents stayed and so I benefitted from what the Afrikaners did in terms of putting aside jobs, funding etc for whites above all others. You can&#039;t blame Afrikaners. 

Even the richest, most well off black person could not vote, was treated like a subhuman, was not seen as a human in the eyes of the government or the country. It&#039;s nice to be treated equally to everyone else, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if our parents chose to stay, and they did, during Apartheid, they clearly did not strongly object to Apartheid. I know my aunt and uncle left because they did not agree with the government. My parents stayed and so I benefitted from what the Afrikaners did in terms of putting aside jobs, funding etc for whites above all others. You can&#8217;t blame Afrikaners. </p>
<p>Even the richest, most well off black person could not vote, was treated like a subhuman, was not seen as a human in the eyes of the government or the country. It&#8217;s nice to be treated equally to everyone else, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Po</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2212</link>
		<dc:creator>Po</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe  Grey yes I am implying that in England at elast the free education can be pretty dodgy, my parents are both teachers here and basically they say the level the kids are at here at age 16 is like standard 5 stuff. I can&#039;t comment myself, but yes, our government white education was/is still sky high above what they get here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe  Grey yes I am implying that in England at elast the free education can be pretty dodgy, my parents are both teachers here and basically they say the level the kids are at here at age 16 is like standard 5 stuff. I can&#8217;t comment myself, but yes, our government white education was/is still sky high above what they get here.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To put it another way --- is there a country in Europe where 70% of the property is owned by Africans??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it another way &#8212; is there a country in Europe where 70% of the property is owned by Africans??</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Po: I consider that living a normal life, non-whites were the victims and had shit lives, but most whites just had a normal life going on, so I&#039;m saying it wasn&#039;t a benefit of apartheid - we had it normal - as if we lived in any other kind of first world country, do you know what I&#039;m getting at?  it should have been the same for everyone living here but it wasnt, it doesnt mean it was a benefit to us, we just had it normal, did your parents become super rich profitting from the corrupt afrikaans government?  that would be a benefit.  

Level of school education that you took for granted?  hello in some european countries schooling is totally free - here you have to pay towards it.  and are you implying Europeans dont get a decent education?

And by the way, during apartheid I used to visit one of my friends who lived in a township in a hugeeeeee house and she had a full time maid and a driver....  and my relatives in europe have maids too - its not a south african phenomenon - the crap thing here is how some people treated their staff and underpaid them.  

And I know of some indian businessmen who benefited BIG time and became super rich thanks to the apartheid-government - who really paid their black workers badly and were paid by the government a quota for each employee, and alot of indians became wealthy because they didnt have to pay tax under aparteheid - that is a benefit is it not?  

All I was saying is that in my opinion we led normal lives and I think it was terrible what the white afrikaners did, I dont see living a normal life as a benefit of apartheid - we were lucky we were born white - but you didnt benefit from apartheid, you just got to live life they way everyone should have.  I think benefit is really the wrong word to use, whites were lucky that they could have regular lives....non-whites had it bad.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Po: I consider that living a normal life, non-whites were the victims and had shit lives, but most whites just had a normal life going on, so I&#8217;m saying it wasn&#8217;t a benefit of apartheid &#8211; we had it normal &#8211; as if we lived in any other kind of first world country, do you know what I&#8217;m getting at?  it should have been the same for everyone living here but it wasnt, it doesnt mean it was a benefit to us, we just had it normal, did your parents become super rich profitting from the corrupt afrikaans government?  that would be a benefit.  </p>
<p>Level of school education that you took for granted?  hello in some european countries schooling is totally free &#8211; here you have to pay towards it.  and are you implying Europeans dont get a decent education?</p>
<p>And by the way, during apartheid I used to visit one of my friends who lived in a township in a hugeeeeee house and she had a full time maid and a driver&#8230;.  and my relatives in europe have maids too &#8211; its not a south african phenomenon &#8211; the crap thing here is how some people treated their staff and underpaid them.  </p>
<p>And I know of some indian businessmen who benefited BIG time and became super rich thanks to the apartheid-government &#8211; who really paid their black workers badly and were paid by the government a quota for each employee, and alot of indians became wealthy because they didnt have to pay tax under aparteheid &#8211; that is a benefit is it not?  </p>
<p>All I was saying is that in my opinion we led normal lives and I think it was terrible what the white afrikaners did, I dont see living a normal life as a benefit of apartheid &#8211; we were lucky we were born white &#8211; but you didnt benefit from apartheid, you just got to live life they way everyone should have.  I think benefit is really the wrong word to use, whites were lucky that they could have regular lives&#8230;.non-whites had it bad&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Po</title>
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		<dc:creator>Po</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grey: &quot;English speaking whites didn&#039;t really benefit&quot; from Aparthied? Oh, were you sleeping in a shack in a township then? Were you attending a school with one book per class with striking or absent teachers? Were you suffering the sexual, physical, emotional abuse that goes hand in hand with poverty (and wealth too obviously, but the connection with poeverty is much stronger), hounded by crime and violence?

Hectic. Cos I wasn&#039;t and I didn&#039;t even get to go to a private school. I went to my amazing model C school that my parents paid for, we lived in an amazing suburb with a huge garden and a pool, I could choose between many sports, I slept in a bed in my own room, I had relative stability in my life. I benefitted from Apartheid, and it&#039;s a fact that if I have kids they will benefit too because of the position and priveleges it gave me in life. White people in other countries  who are average middle class people don&#039;t live the way white South Africans live. People in Europe are shocked and a little disgusted to hear of the pools and the servants and the gardens and the level of school education that we took for granted. I had a better life than them and it was thanks to Apartheid and that&#039;s all there is to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey: &#8220;English speaking whites didn&#8217;t really benefit&#8221; from Aparthied? Oh, were you sleeping in a shack in a township then? Were you attending a school with one book per class with striking or absent teachers? Were you suffering the sexual, physical, emotional abuse that goes hand in hand with poverty (and wealth too obviously, but the connection with poeverty is much stronger), hounded by crime and violence?</p>
<p>Hectic. Cos I wasn&#8217;t and I didn&#8217;t even get to go to a private school. I went to my amazing model C school that my parents paid for, we lived in an amazing suburb with a huge garden and a pool, I could choose between many sports, I slept in a bed in my own room, I had relative stability in my life. I benefitted from Apartheid, and it&#8217;s a fact that if I have kids they will benefit too because of the position and priveleges it gave me in life. White people in other countries  who are average middle class people don&#8217;t live the way white South Africans live. People in Europe are shocked and a little disgusted to hear of the pools and the servants and the gardens and the level of school education that we took for granted. I had a better life than them and it was thanks to Apartheid and that&#8217;s all there is to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.pinkhairgirl.co.za/2010/04/09/i-benefited-from-apartheid-did-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2201</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written.</description>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here from Damaria&#039;s blog.

Great post. I was a kid when Apartheid ended, but I still benefited because previous generations of my family benefited. And I agree - we may not be personally responsible for the regime, but we should be prepared to pass along the benefits we&#039;ve received to others because we can afford to do so.</description>
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<p>Great post. I was a kid when Apartheid ended, but I still benefited because previous generations of my family benefited. And I agree &#8211; we may not be personally responsible for the regime, but we should be prepared to pass along the benefits we&#8217;ve received to others because we can afford to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Namhla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namhla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So very well written Sally. This is the kind of outlook and perspective we ALL need to have. Not only a particular race, but all. For example, if Malema thought this way, he&#039;d be more focused on giving back to the youth he represents instead of just causing mayhem and filling his already full pockets. We as a nation need to stand together and make a difference, instead of just complaining about what is not right with our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very well written Sally. This is the kind of outlook and perspective we ALL need to have. Not only a particular race, but all. For example, if Malema thought this way, he&#8217;d be more focused on giving back to the youth he represents instead of just causing mayhem and filling his already full pockets. We as a nation need to stand together and make a difference, instead of just complaining about what is not right with our country.</p>
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